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April 18, 2024·VIDEO
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Master of Your Craft

with Naranjan Nota

Find Your Own Truth with Brendan D Murphy

Brendan joins Master of Your Craft to explore finding truth beyond inherited frameworks — drawing on his research into consciousness, reality, and the nature of mind.

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[0:01] Introduction and Welcome

Naranjan: Hello, my name is Naranjan, the host of Master of Your Crafts podcast. Learning from leaders who are continuously inspired, passionate and driven to align with their sole purpose. Sharing their gifts to bring healing to others. The music is composed by Rebecca Everett.

Today is episode number 25, where we will talk to Brendan, a transformational catalyst who utilizes a powerful sound-based form of DNA activation and healing to help his clients take their lives and health to new heights. Brendan's the author of a critically acclaimed The Grand Illusion, A Synthesis and Science of Spirituality, Book One. Now immersed in completing the monumental and groundbreaking Book 2 of The Grand Illusion. In addition, he's the host of Truthiverse, podcast, and a radio show.

Hello and welcome, Brendan. Thank you so much for being available to come on the show. So, welcome.

Brendan: Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here and talk to you.


[1:35] What Drew Brendan to Truth and Freedom

Naranjan: I was very intrigued with everything that you have put out because you've been working in the field of awareness and consciousness and freedom and rights for a long time. And that sparked a bigger sense of curiosity for me, to learn about where it truly stems from and where it really comes from. What were those aspects for you that it nudged you into that, into this world?

Brendan: That's a really good question. I've had a journey that started in the spiritual realm and I always wondered as a teenager, as young as 15, what was it all about? What was life all about? What happened when you die? What's on the other side and all this kind of stuff? And my inquiries started in that realm, more in the metaphysical side of things. Because I just wanted to know what was ultimately real, what was ultimately true.

And I started realizing over time that I also just wanted to be free to just live my life and do my thing and spend my time how I wanted to spend my time, and not have to be forced into one of the prefabricated roles of society and tick the boxes that we're supposed to supposedly tick.

So, yeah, I'm one of those people who is really annoying to, I guess, governments or despots and tyrants because I just want to be left alone. And I think there's a growing number of people who are like that, who just want to be adult enough to figure out how to live responsibly and be left alone and go about their lives peacefully, really. And that's all I really, really want.

And when I see the bureaucracy and the governments and the global governance structure deliberately trying to undermine our ability to do that and to just be left alone, it bothers me and I feel the need to say something.


[3:41] Upbringing and Early Influences

Naranjan: And it's great that you were able to find out that aspect of yourself so early on? Because for many, it's, I don't know, maybe a lifetime and a half before people can figure out the element of freedom and maybe an essence of sovereignty as well. Was there something that, something else that triggered that, be it the way you was raised? What was happening in the world at that stage, at that point, that tipped you over that edge, so to speak?

Brendan: Yeah, I don't really know what it was. I think it's just something maybe in my makeup because my parents are very, or were very, very much mainstream, pretty conservative. There was nothing really that they did that pushed me in a certain direction. I think one of the important things that they didn't do was try to force me into a religious outlook or any kind of dogma.

So they weren't religious as such, even though I ended up going to an Anglican high school. And I was indoctrinated in primary school as a little kid in scripture classes and the Christian Creed. So I had that kind of background and a little bit of that conditioning there, but my parents weren't that way inclined so much, so they didn't really push me into a belief system, which I think was really maybe one of the most important things was I didn't really have to overcome a massive attachment to some kind of a dogma, whatever it might have been.

But other than that, I don't know what it is. I just have always been someone who has been obsessed by truth and what is the truth and figuring out based on evidence and experience and just attacking the challenge from as many different angles as possible to see what's possible as well. I want to explore what it means to be a human in the fullest sense and see what we're capable of and see what I'm capable of. And that also connects into being free and spending my time how I want to spend it so that I get to explore myself and the world the way I'd like to.

So, yeah, I don't know. It just seems to be an innate thing. I've always wondered about some of the bigger questions and it's just snowballed from there.


[5:59] Infinite Consciousness as Ultimate Truth

Naranjan: Yeah. Do you feel as you've moved through that process, delving into different areas, that you able to answer some of those questions?

Brendan: I don't know if anyone should say that they can answer them, but I used to think so. And I went as far as being able to experience some things. I've experienced infinite consciousness. I know some people will hear that and it won't really land. Some people will go, I know what you mean. I know what you're talking about. Those kinds of peak experiences, altered states of consciousness. And I've had those.

So for me, especially with the level of study I've done over the years, if I was to say that I've arrived at an ultimate truth, it would have to be that we are infinite consciousness. We are everything that exists and we're unlimited. Ultimately, we have no beginning. We have no end. We're not subject to time. And the vastness of what we are is incomprehensible.

So that's where I ended up in the grand scheme of things and everything else within that or subordinate to that infinity is debatable. I'm not really overly attached to anything.

Naranjan: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's still pretty profound, though. Profound to be able to sit back and look at the unlimited possibilities that are available. The magnitude and the scope that is not even untapped. We haven't even touched it on the surface.


[7:32] What Defines Brendan

Naranjan: So with everything that you've kind of come across and learned about consciousness through the thousands of hours of study that you have done within your book and even interviewing other people on your own podcast, what do you feel possibly defines you? Or is this something that defines you in that way of who you are today?

Brendan: Well, I don't really think that. I don't like boxes and I don't like labels and I never really have. So I think that it's just that search, that search for ultimate meaning, search for ultimate truth and for confirmation of it. And I'm always testing and questioning.

So I think those things, a lot of people who know me a little bit, but not that well, would see me as an activist kind of guy, a guy who's talking about conspiracies and power and all this kind of stuff. And that is a part of me, which is just that part of me that is the guy who wants to just be free and left alone. And that drive for freedom and autonomy and self-determination, as much as the truth seeker part of me, those are the two things that are probably the core defining aspects, I would say.


[8:58] Calling and Purpose

Naranjan: Do you feel that that is your calling? Often this language thrown out there like purpose and fulfillment and why we're here and the bigger grander scheme of things of why is the planet here? Why are humans on this planet? All these other things. Why is the acts of the current third dimensional world actually playing out the way it is, even in all of that space? There's ultimately a reason, a calling, a quest or a definition of some sort as to why we are here. Do you feel that's what your calling is, to be a truth seeker?

Brendan: Yeah, well, it's hard for me to deny that because I don't seem to be able to turn it off. So it seems to be the authentic expression of the personality of Brendan Murphy and a lot of people could relate to that. They feel like they're here for a reason, here on a mission. I've felt for many years I'm on some sort of mission and for me it's all about truth and freedom, and if people don't feel like they have a mission that's totally fine. Just live, just figure out what lights you up and go on. Go and explore yourself and discover the vastness of what you are and approach it from different angles. Give those attachments away and explore.

It's not necessarily a bad thing to not have a definite sense of purpose. That keeps things very open and you can do a lot with that kind of open space.

Naranjan: Yeah. It's interesting, though, to have somebody navigate through life, just day-to-day, maybe, like you said, not really have a definite purpose or meaning, but yet you're fulfilled throughout your days. It's a very different, perhaps a foreign concept to me, but a different way of living, ultimately, I guess.


[10:58] An Age of Dissolution and Self-Authorship

Brendan: Yeah, we are, we're in an age where all the established thought patterns and structures and the things that we're supposed to do and be are all breaking down and dissolving, and it's sort of like the caterpillar dissolves itself in the cocoon and then goes through this state of dissolution and it ultimately is rebirthed as something entirely different. There's nothing wrong with feeling like you're in the cocoon dissolved and structureless.

I think a lot of people go through that and we all are supposed to be challenged at different points in time and go through these initiatory experiences that make us feel like we're being broken down and bring us to our wits end, and those are tests that are part of the human experience and I don't think we should necessarily try to control them or definitely not stop them.

It is an amazing opportunity that we have to live in so many different ways now, we didn't have the options that we have like 20 years ago, let alone 50 years ago or 100 years ago to choose who we are and to author ourselves like we can. We can author ourselves to an extreme degree right now, to the point of absurdity as well, if you look at a lot of what goes on in the world. With people, oh, I identify as a unicorn now. Oh, this kind of thinking.

But the point is, we've recognized on some level that we get to choose and that we are creating ourselves as we go. And we're making it up as we go. Just because I feel like I have a mission or a sense of purpose, it doesn't mean I always know what the next step is. I've lived on basically on kind of faith for years now, just trusting that the next step would unfold when it needed to and that I'd have somewhere to live when I needed to and we'd be able to eat next week somehow and that kind of thing.

So you step outside of the sort of corporate structure of the world, which we're all sort of trained to operate in, and a lot of interesting possibilities open up, but it is definitely challenging as well at the same time. So, yeah, a lot of opportunities for growth in the world that we live in.

Naranjan: Yeah, yeah. It's endless. It's just based on the perspective that you look at life, right? Based on the perspective of how you want to see life and is the cup half full or is it half empty? It's how you want to look at it.

Do you feel you've reached or you are gaining more momentum with the intention of what you're here to do of freedom and the truth, not only for yourself, but for others.

[unclear]: Yeah, I would have to say there's clearly momentum building. There's a lot of people waking up at this point in time. [section omitted] So, yeah.

Brendan: Yeah, well, it's definitely, we are collectively, together we are gathering a momentum at the moment that is really interesting to watch. We're noticing, I'm noticing that people are choosing to want to be free. They're choosing to open themselves. They're choosing to question things and explore things that they normally wouldn't have. So that's quite gratifying for me, because that's what I've been trying to encourage people to do for years now. And that's just how I've lived for a long time. So it's great.

It's definitely a sort of cultural shift occurring, which is being helped along by our governments lying to us and making it really obvious that they're lying to us about everything. So people are realising, hey, I have a chance here to think for myself, maybe for the first time in my life. I'm seeing it with people who are even in their 70s, they're going, hang on a minute, this doesn't make sense. And then they start questioning, they start looking for information, they start listening to people they never would have listened to before and looking at information they never would have before.

So it's a great time to be in the so-called truth movement, because we've never had this much activity or impact. The impact seems to be exponentially increasing now. It's quite interesting. It's an exciting time. It's definitely an exciting time.


[15:44] The Cost of a Devoted Path

Naranjan: How did that bear with you over the years of constantly on this quest and unravelling and unfolding so many different things for yourself, based on your mission, your purpose, your intention for who you are? How did that bear well with your peers or your surroundings, your environment? What did that look like?

Brendan: Well, it wasn't pretty for the most part. The early days of that journey, I would just keep my thoughts to myself for the most part. Under normal circumstances, most people, particularly my peers, when I was 20 and 21, I was the only person I knew who was that age who was doing what I was doing, and everyone else was just doing the normal sort of 20, 21 year old thing. So I didn't really have anyone to talk to about it. I was completely devoted to this path.

So I spent some time living in Melbourne for a few years and then in Perth in Western Australia for a couple of years. I was with my ex-partner and we were very isolated socially and we were hermits. I'm used to and quite comfortable living as a hermit. But at the same time, because I never prioritised the normal things that most people do, I never went and got a full-time job. I never had a normal kind of work regime because I just wanted to do this. I just wanted to study and learn and share what I was learning.

So what that meant was that I've lived most of my adult life basically in what you would call first world poverty. I've never really had any money until a couple of years ago. So it was a journey where you really tested, you really stripped back to the absolute basics and bare minimum. I was fortunate to be able to put a roof over my head without having to pay rent for some time. That was extremely helpful and that allowed me to spend many, many hours writing my first book and the other books that are not published yet. It was a time of the coal being compressed into diamond, a very almost ascetic kind of existence.

And so a lot of it hasn't been comfortable. I've been comfortable enough physically, sheltered and protected and that kind of thing. But a lot of stress, and where's the next dollar coming from? How are we going to put petrol in the car next week? That was my normal existence for a long time, just because I chose to go down this road, and the dedication that I've had has been probably pathological and a lot of people just wouldn't do it.

Naranjan: Did you question it at times when you were pushed to your last straw so strongly and so emotionally? Did it make you question, what the hell am I doing?

Brendan: Yeah, definitely. I've definitely had moments where I've just gone, how did I end up here? What am I doing here? Is this really worth it? And how do I get out of this? You have moments where you hit rock bottom and there's nowhere to go and you wonder why would anyone do this? So it's been one of those things where there's a point where you're like, oh, there's no going back kind of thing as well.

Naranjan: It's almost like you feel, you can probably relate to the feeling of life living you as opposed to you living your life.

Brendan: It's like you're a pawn in a great cosmic game that you can't really control. You're like this character that's been programmed into the game and you've got to play the role and you almost don't have a choice. I don't think I could stop doing this. I don't think I can turn it off. So you just roll with the punches and take it on the chin and hope that you can improve your own situation while you continue to try to help humanity wake up and discover what it really is.


[20:01] Past Lives and the Higher Self

Naranjan: Yeah, yeah. Did you ever look at it from a perspective of what you may have experienced to be in a position of where you are today, maybe other lifetimes that you may have experienced that have triggered this and put you in the space of where you are?

Brendan: That's a pretty good question. I recently had some interesting astrological work done by a friend of mine who's quite a good astrologer, a very experienced one. According to what you were seeing in the chart, my other lifetimes or so-called past lives were heavily dominated by a hermetic way of living, a hermit-like lifestyle. So this lifetime for me was, Brendan's job is to not be such a hermit, and he's supposed to take all of the learnings and the wisdom and that esoteric study that was done in all these other lives and bring it out into the light.

So if I had access to those other lives, which we all do in principle, I'd probably find that there's definitely strands of consistency that run through them. Being so obsessed with truth and what is ultimately true and the deepest, that exploration tells you something. When you see that in yourself, that you have this thing that grips you and that has you in its grip as opposed to you being in control of it, that's probably a clue as to the ultimate makeup of your, what super soul or higher self or whatever people want to call it.

Naranjan: Yeah. It's pretty powerful when it taps in. Like you said, when it grips you or it just holds you in such reverence and the emotions are so heightened, it feels like there really is no going back. And this is it. This is the black and this is the white and there is no grey in between. This is it. There's no question in it.

I find it really interesting how a lot of people who are seeking the truth, who are on a spiritual path to an awakening or looking for something more, where they came from and how they've got to where they have. Like you, it's almost like an innate knowing of what it is and how it transpires. To trust it, learning to trust what it is. And it seems like you've been able to do that. You've been able to fall back on it and know that it's going to be there to catch you. Like you said, even when you were questioning whether there is going to be enough money to put gas in the car or not, there's a sense of comfort. That's something, something that's greater beyond the physical form has your back.


[23:05] Hitting Bottom and Finding Balance

Brendan: And at the same time, in my situation, my partner and I, we got to a point, I think two and a half years ago, roughly, where we were absolutely at rock bottom. $200 left between us. That was our entire financial situation. And we were house-sitting and we ended up house-sitting for three years nonstop to keep a roof over our heads. And so we're down $200 and we're like, this is ridiculous. We can't continue to function like this. It's just not working, yada, yada, yada. Being these, we were almost masochistic activist educators in the alternative world, the truth movement. And we had to pivot, we had to make an adjustment.

So my point is, I think that you've got to recognise, as much as you have faith in the ultimate purpose, if you like, or the ultimate maybe outcome, you may still find you have to make some adjustments and take some unexpected actions, take some paths that may make you uncomfortable for the sake of your own growth and expansion. We had to pivot to recognise that what we were actually doing was we were a little bit stuck in the realm of martyrdom. That archetype of the martyr was running a little bit too strongly in us and we had to do something about it, to actually start looking after ourselves so that we didn't end up in a situation again where we were like, oh, here we are, $200 and we're house-sitting because we don't have somewhere to live, like we couldn't pay rent or anything like that.

So that adjustment, it's like have faith in the journey and the process, but at the same time, you're going to have to take action to help yourself and expand yourself and grow when you need to as well. And to recognise the signs along the way, when the writing's on the wall, don't be in denial about it. And we probably, I probably was in denial about it, because I didn't do any of this. I didn't start global freedom movement. And our website, we didn't do that because we wanted to make money. It was about educating and waking people up and showing them what's really going on in the world. So, yeah, you've got to find a balance in the end. And that's what we've struck, a bit of balance now. It's a lot healthier.

Naranjan: Good, good. It's good to know. Yeah, I guess for many it can be pretty interesting and quite an emotional journey just in itself. I just try and figure out where is that balance? Where is that element of comfort as well? What does that look like? Because when we look at it from another perspective of we're in an environment that is here to help us also, depending on the perspective in which way you look at life. So there are resources out there also to support us, but to another perspective, some of those resources are feeding into that labelling power, structural form in itself. So yeah, it's a tough one.

I think it is a very challenging one for many who were on the path of finding their own truth and standing into their own power and reclaiming who they truly are. I think it's a very courageous journey and courageous for you to be able to do that for so many years. Well done.

Brendan: Yeah, well, you do what you have to do. You do what you're called to do. And I couldn't have said no if I'd wanted to.

Naranjan: Yeah, yeah. Such a strong component, which to me brings it loud and clear of karmic lifetimes that are shouting at you to try and get your attention to process to the next level.


[27:04] Where to Go from Here

Naranjan: You've written all these books, some published and some in the works, and you've got quite a following online with your podcasts. You've interviewed some pretty interesting people and gaining momentum as the world is changing and as souls are evolving, as systems are breaking down and people are finally waking up to their own truth. Where do you go from here? What's next?

Brendan: Well, I think we all would do well to take a couple of different paths at the same time.

The most important thing that we need to do as individuals is to do our inner work and do our shadow work and go into those parts of ourselves where there's darkness or where there's woundedness, and to see that and be with that and work with that, because those parts of us that are broken or seem to be broken or wounded are actually the latent power places where we will trigger the strongest evolutionary jumps and the strongest growth.

Problems we have socially are there on a macro scale because as individuals on the micro scale, we're not really taking responsibility and ownership of our personal makeup and our personal journey and our growth. So the imperative to consciously evolve ourselves, I think, has to be heeded. And we really need to listen to that.

And at the same time, watch, be vigilant externally out on a big picture scale to see what's going on and playing out in the world. And the levels of manipulation and deception that are emanating from government structures and supra-governmental structures like the UN and the World Health Organization.

And to walk that line between being internally aware and working in that internal world as well as being at least aware of the basics of what's going on around us and unfolding around us, so that we can not fall into the traps that are set for us and not allow ourselves to be manipulated and herded like sheep, which is exactly how the system operates.

So for me, there's been an enormous benefit to going within and doing the expansive work and the healing work on myself over the years and going into those nooks and crannies where it made me uncomfortable to look and to deal with that stuff. And that's really where the gold is.

And so if people took that approach actively and really took ownership of themselves, instead of pointing fingers at people around them, blaming people for, oh, you made me feel this way. You made me feel, I'm offended, all that sort of stuff. Turn your attention within and figure out, well, why are you offended? Why are you triggered? It's not someone else's fault that you feel a certain way. That's your feeling. That's your response to the environment. It's a totally subjective thing. So work with it and learn something about yourself. That's kind of my mentality.

Naranjan: Yeah, yeah. From a global perspective, yeah, that's everybody's individual calling and process and their own evolution for their soul's growth in itself too, right? But what does that mean for you in what's next for you and your path and your sense of freedom and your sense of being a truth seeker? What's next for that? Is it going to evolve further or are there going to be other power words that show up in the next short while as we continue, as the goalpost moves, so to speak?


[30:49] What's Next: Book and Global Freedom University

Brendan: Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that goalpost is always moving and it's not going to stop. So what I'd like to do is I'd really like to finish this second book that I was working on earlier in the year and it's already massive. So I'd love to publish that and give that gift of the end of the fear of death, which is really what that second book is all about. Proving that we are immortal, that there is that part of us that transcends space and time and survives. And there's a lot of material in that book, which I'm pretty excited to share.

And on a slightly less personal note, we've been working on this thing called the Global Freedom University or what we call the Truthiversity. And I'd like to be able to launch that or at least start drip feeding that out a little bit next year as well. We've had people for the last three years, almost four years now, waiting for us to do something with it. That's a big project.

So the front end of it will be the Truth Network, our Facebook alternative for the truth community where we don't censor people. So we respect and protect freedom of speech. And so that's almost a funnel into the Global Freedom University, which will be an educational platform, all the material that people don't get taught at school or the stuff that they should be taught and don't get taught or the stuff that's definitely kept out of the six o'clock news.

And we'll cover all of that stuff in there and really just help people to find their feet and get educated in this very rapidly changing psychoscape as it happens. Things are changing so quickly now and people are looking for stability and they're looking for accurate information because they're realising that what they've been told is not right.

So we're going to be looking to launch the Truthiversity as well next year, I think. And I'm pretty pumped about that. That's been a long time coming.

Naranjan: That's pretty exciting. Truth diversity. Give somebody some real education of how to tap into their own inner wisdom.

Brendan: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's going to be really a beautiful thing in the end, but it's a big project. It's going to take time. So we'll see how we go.


[33:08] Closing Thanks

Naranjan: Yeah. Exciting stuff. Really exciting stuff. Brendan, I really appreciate you spending time with me and answering some questions and sharing all that you have gathered and garnered over the years and giving us a very different perspective of what life could look like and what maybe life should look like. So I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

Brendan: You're very welcome, Naranjan. Thank you. I've enjoyed chatting.

Naranjan: Thank you. I'm Naranjan and you've been listening to Master of Your Craft podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review and join me next week for another episode. Thank you for listening.

[unclear]: Thank you.