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William Hughes interview Beyond Big Pharma: German New Medicine

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William Hughes has been studying, practicing, and sharing German New Medicine since 2011. He has a degree in Applied Science, and post-graduate studies in Epigenetics and Medical Neuroscience, and currently lives on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Australia.

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  • How the Prince of Savoy’s violent crime inadvertently triggered a health revolution
  • What the current pinnacle of mind-body understanding looks like
  • How internal psychological conflict creates specific dis-ease conditions
  • How to break Big Pharma’s stranglehold on global health policy
  • The key to leaving allopathic medicine’s Germ Warfare model behind – and greeting the FUTURE of medicine
  • How a totally un-funded mind-body science is revolutionising wellness understanding
  • Why dis-ease symptoms tend to prefer one side of the body over the other (laterality)
  • Some of the surprising ways the mind can cunningly create mysterious physical symptoms

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Will Hughes - GNM

Brendan D. Murphy: [00:00:00] Welcome to another episode of Truthiverse. I am your host, Brendan D Murphy. And this week on healthy life radio, I am joined by my friend, William Hughes who is a fellow Aussie, lives a couple of hours North of me. And I brought him on this week because he is a German New Medicine Practitioner and has been doing it for about eight years now.

[00:00:18] And I want us to dig in to this subject. With Will because obviously if you've been following the episodes, it's, a really great natural kind of progression from what we've been covering so far. We've covered, we've pulled apart germ theory, we've pulled apart the COVID scamdemic, we've looked at all sorts of different angles on this whole thing and why it is that viruses and infectious pathogens and microbes are not the enemy and not what they're made out to be.

[00:00:41] And German New Medicine takes the mind, body understanding of health and illness to a whole other level. So we're going to dig into that with Will this week and waste no further time. Will Hughes, thanks for being here and joining me to talk about it, Man.

[00:00:56] Will Hughes: Thanks for having me, Brandon. It's been an absolute pleasure [00:01:00] listening to all your other podcasts and watching your other YouTube. So this is really great. It's an honor.

[00:01:05] Brendan D. Murphy: Oh, thank you. It's fantastic to have you on. And yeah, why don't we do a quick bit of background and bio on who you are, where you've been and what you've studied, so that people have a feel for why you're coming from here.

[00:01:17]Sure. So Will Hughes: my graduate degree, I graduated in 91, from the University of Central Queensland.

[00:01:24] It was known back then with a Science Degree. I saw a bachelor of applied science is my formal educational, the core of my formal education. Postgraduate, I did some modules with the Melbourne University. I did epigenetics. And with North Carolina's University in the U S, I studied Medical Neuroscience as well.

[00:01:44] That's the core of my formal education. But the real thing that matters is the period of time, about nine years, that I've been studying German New Medicine. I found it, I think in late 2010 or [00:02:00] early 2011. And I started studying it and shortly thereafter, I managed to find an international educator.

[00:02:09] I flew to Canada and did some training there with John Thebeau, and shortly thereafter, I started putting things into practice and immediately noticed results with others that I was working with. And that was fantastic. My motivation for studying this was my own situation at the time. I was looking for solutions for, medical type problems.

[00:02:34] Brendan D. Murphy: Yeah. Awesome. And that's, I think probably how most people come into it. And I know that's why I jumped into it and started quite recently, going into this world. So yeah, I found it enormously helpful like you have in understanding.

[00:02:48] Cause for me, Will, I've spent the last few years dealing with a lot of what would be called psychosomatic kind of stuff or psychogenic stuff in the body. And only in the last two, [00:03:00] probably two and a half to two years, I got a very good grip on the fact that what was going on in terms of symptoms was actually driven by psychology.

[00:03:09] And it was not, there was nothing actually physical that was really behind it anymore, but I never got the detailed understanding and framework that GNM offers until recently.

[00:03:21]Will Hughes: I'd like to just offer a few things there. We tend to avoid the term psychology. We would tend to use Psyche. As Doctor Hamer, with the doctor, he was t was the Head Internist to begin hospital in Munich many years ago. And he was, not that reductionist theory is useful for much, but he broke and saw a man or a woman down into the three components, like a psyche, the brain and the organ. So all of those things are interconnected. And in reality, there is no distinction we are wrong.That is Holistic, [00:04:00] but for the purposes of maybe doing analysis or understanding how things were all connecting, there was this triple bright. So the closest we come to talking about psychology would be the human psyche and what shapes us.

[00:04:16] And talking about disease where we, understanding disease is really the psyche, that's what's happening in the psyche, it's the disease which then lead to the organ level disease. I tend to refer to it as the driver behind all these things. As Dr. Hamer discovered, there were very specific drivers to cause change, induce change at the organ level.

[00:04:46] And he refers to these as conflicts, and they are biological conflict. Another common mistake or another common theme that people discuss is emotional conflict. And as much as emotions [00:05:00] might be involved in the process, there could be an emotional response to a situation. It's a biological conflict at the foundation of the change.

[00:05:11]In, to elaborate, a biological conflict would be something that's threatens one's existence or one's status or one one's position. For example, one security. This could be, in broader terms, thinking about a conflict, there's always a division. So there's one side that wants, there's one part that doesn't.

[00:05:34] So there's a conflict between those two things. An example of that would be, someone's touching me and I don't want that, or I'm missing the touch of someone and can't get it I desire. So you can see it, you can look at these things from the other side, but ultimately the way I see a conflict is it's internal.

[00:05:54] So there's an internal division. A part of you wants it, a [00:06:00] part of you doesn't, that is that kind of process that then inspires the body to form an adaptation to that stress. And that's where we see the organ level changes.

[00:06:12] Brendan D. Murphy: Okay. So let's back up. I want to circle back to this and we'll pick that thread up. So, if we go back to the mentioned Dr. Hamer, let's go back to the very origin story of GNM. How did German New Medicine actually come into existence through Dr. Harmer?

[00:06:28] Will Hughes: Okay. That's a big story and I hyperrelate as well. I only have second hand information obviously to work off, but I've got good sources on this now. As a doctor in Germany, he was also quite, how'd you put it, he was very intellectual, quite skilled, and he invented a number of devices for surgery, for medical use. And he had a number of royalty streams from patent's, from those. And he was able to, not retire, but he was able to [00:07:00] volunteer his work at Medical Centers in Spain.

[00:07:03] So he worked for free, so he moved his family relocated to Spain. And when he did that, his son, Dirk, at the time, was on a Yacht in the Mediterranean Mood, somewhere in Spain probably. A sad state of affairs, he was shot, not killed immediately, but he was shot asleep on the poop deck of a Yacht.

[00:07:28] And the gentleman that actually shot him was the sacked Prince of Savoy, the sacked Italian family. So known arms dealer. Now, obviously, it didn't go well for the Hamer family. So it took three months for Dirk to pass eventually during an amputation. I think he passed on in surgery.

[00:07:49] Now, Dr. Hamer and his wife had never really had a sick dying their life. They both medical, by medical school. That's I think that's how they met. And so, [00:08:00] shortly thereafter, after the passing of Dick, Dr. Harmer, I think it was within three months and that's a significant timeline, but within three months of his son's passing, he developed testicular cancer and his wife, subsequently developed breast cancer. Now to have two fairly serious medica complaints, in the,both of them, for people that were entirely healthy beforehand, the mental process kicks in and it's what's happened, and this is a period of enormous stress, they were, there was a trial for the Prince of Savoy, and he appealed and there was two or three appeals total.

[00:08:47] Maybe it was three trials, three legal proceedings and they progressively lost more and more of the evidence until eventually, he was, it was, I think he was charged with possession [00:09:00] of a firearm and that was it. Yeah. So you can imagine that they, the pressure applied to the harm of family was enormous, and over an extended period, and unfortunately, Dr. Harmer's wife passed away . And he had his testicle that hadn't been affected, he had it removed. That was the treatment at the time, but it prompted Doctor Hamer's thinking into this. Then he started talking to a patients there. They moved back to begin, I think, so back to Munich and resumed his role there as the head internist. He started discussing what had happened in a bunch of patients' lives. And I think he actually started with, was it uterine or cervical cancer? I think it was one of those fields. He started questioning. And, he started putting things together and eventually he presented his findings.

[00:09:57]So this is after the uterine cancer, [00:10:00] starting to see patterns. He did research into breast cancer, as his wife had suffered it. So 2000 patients he interviewed who had breast cancer. And it makes sense when I do the figures on it. He never published the correlation with less than 500 case studies per disease.

[00:10:21]Yes, you've got left breast and you've got right breast. So there's a thousand studie. And then you've got glandular or you've got ductal, intraductal breast cancer. So there's another 500 and 500. So 2000 studies makes perfect sense. But when he produced his findings for the, what was it, the Dean, it was like a research hospital. And when he produced his findings, he was told, effectively go away. We're looking for a pharmaceutical solution.

[00:10:52] Brendan D. Murphy: Of course.

[00:10:54]Will Hughes: Yeah. When you understand the work, really, it's one of [00:11:00] those, it's a knowledge. German New Medicine is not a modality. It's a knowledge. It's a science. It's actually one of the most incredible, genuine, unbiased science is there, as there was no funding for this. What I typically find is there's two types of. voke. You might have, say someone who's trained to be a doctor. The reason they might be doing that, it could be that they've lost someone in their life and they've suffered and they see others suffering and they like to help, or they could have parents that, you need to earn more money and you need to do this and you need to be that.

[00:11:39] So there's this dichotomy there that I see fairly clearly. And if any doctor answered that they would become a doctor for money. Yeah. I'd be at that door faster than you can imagine. Lost my train of thought.

[00:11:55] Brendan D. Murphy: That's all good. So we've got this amazing amount of, [00:12:00] like clinical research that he was, that Dr. Hamer was doing, to put this together, making connections and correlations between the events of people's lives and the actual physical symptoms that they were manifesting.

[00:12:12] Will Hughes: Yeah, the outcome. Yeah. I can speak about this from a scientific perspective. This is environmental stress. So you can have a conflict outside yourself with someone, or it could be just with part of your environment, that is that you need food and your environment is not providing food that would inspire an adaptation to assist your survival. And this is what it did, Germany New Medicine is just understanding biology. This is how we would adapt to a situation where there was no food or a lack of food or a perceived lack of food, then a liver would likely respond by growing more tissue. So the purpose of that would be [00:13:00] to produce more digestive enzyme, to extract more nutrition from the little available food, if that makes sense.

[00:13:08] But if you were to have a scan, at the time this was going on, that would be called liver cancer. Cancer is, typically, people think of it as growth. That's not always the case. There are some cancers that are ulcerative or necrotic type events, but, yeah, the liver growing to respond would be to assist you to get more out of less available food. When the environment changes and food is now in abundance or maybe in surplus, there's no requirement for that excess tissue. And you would know the body is an incredibly efficient thing. So that excess tissue not required, the body will simply switch it off. So this is known as [00:14:00] apoptosis. So the tissue that was required and is no longer required now dies. So how would your body deal with having dead tissue inside it?

[00:14:11] That wouldn't be a healthy situation. At this point we have a series of microbes that come active and they start excising that dead tissue. And this is a perfectly natural synergistic event. So, think of bacteria as a billion micro surgeons, they're just going to work and see you for free.

[00:14:38] Unfortunately with that comes some symptoms. And this is where people get focused. During the stress, if there's this environmental stress, your elevated adrenaline cortisol, all the stress hormones, naturally elevate. And if you know anything about those types of hormones, they induce [00:15:00] different states like hyperactivity.

[00:15:02]So there's more activity, more alertness, more awareness, but also you might know that they use cortisone to treat pain and inflammation. So while those stress hormones are present, there's very rarely any detectable symptom. However, when we start repairing, when the environment changes to support us now, and we go through this repair process, then there are things like swelling, heat in the areas or redness heat. We could have itching if it's a skin issue, there are many symptoms that are associated and bacterial. I don't use the word infection that doesn't make sense. As much as you can transmit a microbe, it's not an infection. The concept there is a war mentality that we're at war with our germs. We're at war with our environment and we have to control it. It's [00:16:00] insane that the whole concept of an immune system is still a war mentality. I grant you immunity from being attacked. That's just rubbish. That there's no attack to begin with, but this concept of immunity, I would be dismissing that.

[00:16:16] And I would be saying if anything, and these are the words that a mentor of mine gave me. There's more likely a support system. So you understand how to support your support system would be advantageous. And this is why people get very focused on things like diet, and sunlight and all those things.

[00:16:36] But, really it is. It's almost like an environmental stimulus that gives us the okay signal. Yeah.

[00:16:44] Brendan D. Murphy: Just unmuting myself. I'm just going to say, so perception is really a kind of a key word here. It's a perception of environment, right?

[00:16:55] Will Hughes: So there's two, you've got a literal conflict, [00:17:00] a literal event happening in front of you. And that could be environmental, like I was saying, lack of food. So that would stimulate something to happen then. Now, you might also have a perceived lack of food, so that would shift it from literal to figurative now. And this is something that humans do beautifully well. For an animal that's just been, so a Saint Angelo, which has been chased by a lion. While the stress is on, the stress is on.

[00:17:28] But five minutes after that stress is over that ANSULITE will have its head down eating grass. Yeah. Now humans, not so much. This is the guy in the car at the traffic lights banging on the steering wheel and yelling in his car. What's the stimulus for that? So we're exceptionally good at dragging our baggage around.

[00:17:54] And so the perception of having nothing available in terms of nutrition is just as [00:18:00] important as not having anything available in the way of nutrition. So it could be figurative in the sense that, I don't know how I'm going to pay my credit card this week. So how do I put food on the table? So again, our liver adaptation would fit there.

[00:18:18] So there would be a liver growth or diagnosed if it was as liver cancer. Now, the other thing I should finish with that is that as those tissue are being deleted, so they die off with apoptosis and then the bacteria become active and remove that. And one of the most common bacteria would be TB. So tuberculine. People have this misconception that tuberculin is something specific to the lungs. That's not true at all. In fact, if you have look through research, you'll see, there's plenty of evidence of that. It's a, something, some microbacteria mimicking TB. That's what you'll see. [00:19:00] Yeah. It's not mimicking the, this concept that these microbacteria are smart enough to pretend to be something else.

[00:19:10] Brendan D. Murphy: Yeah. It's that sort of paranoid. Sort of war paradigm and they're out to get us. They're pretending to be something that, in fact, part of neurotic mentality,


[00:19:19] Will Hughes: Yeah. When TB tends to be active on a particular layer, germ layer of tissue, which is endodermal tissue, tends to be more active in those layers and it's when the growth has died, basically. Their TB comes active and starts excising that dead tissue. Now, interestingly, from observation, they believe that for every cell that is grown, endodermal tissue is growing, there is a cell of TB growing at the same rate. So it's like a one for one. The thing is that they're dormant and everyone should have [00:20:00] TB. Everyone should have it. It's just inactive.

[00:20:03] Only becomes active at the time of apoptosis of the endodermal tissue. So now it switches on and goes to work excising that dead tissue. The other things with TB when it's active and you'll know if you've got active TB and that this is nothing to be concerned about, it's doing its job. You will have a symptom that is fairly unique to TB, and that is night sweats.

[00:20:32]Yeah, you wake up in the middle of the night soaked, and I went through a year of that. Amazingly, I'm still alive. Yeah. It was, I had a wonderful experience, a learning experience about that. I asked my mentor in a conference in Austria. Can you help me understand what organ is being affected too?

[00:20:53]Cause it's a year now and I've got night sweats every year. The next morning she comes into class and [00:21:00] says,"Night sweats." And then, I'm like a, thank you. So she tells everyone, she explains to everyone that they, the sweat gland itself is endodermal tissue. And it responds to a feeling of being soiled.

[00:21:17] So a feeling of, I don't like this, I want this guy. I feel dirty waking up in a wet bed every night, that's feeling soiled. And what was happening to me was I was getting triggered every night that I would have the sweat, which is part of the recovery process. So I'm having the sweat, waking up feeling soiled and starting the process around again, started going again.

[00:21:41]The gland, the sweat gland grows. The purpose of which is to produce more sweat to wash away the offending material. When the sweat is the offending material, that's a little hot. But I committed that night when I understood thi, [00:22:00] finally, that was the organ. That was the tissue that was causing the issue.

[00:22:04] I committed to being gentle on myself when I wake up with a sweat. That night I had a half a sweat. And I woke up and I just, middle of the night, I had a shower, towel off and I went back and slept on the dry side of the bed. And that was the following night, I had virtually no sweat and had no more sweats after that.

[00:22:28] So yeah, no medication, no, nothing. Just understanding the process and understanding where my focus needed to be to take the stress out. So I removed the biological or I dealt with the biological conflict and the conflict for me was waking up wet feeling soiled.

[00:22:50] Brendan D. Murphy: Yeah. That's so, that's one of most important or really interesting things about German New Medicine to me is that there's that sort of double layered aspect of it, for example, the [00:23:00] feeling of being soiled or, the concept, maybe we can talk about the concept of the devaluation side of things. And, like, you notice that there's this, maybe you've got tinier on your foot and then you get old, or you like repulsed by it. You get old judgy about it. You're like, what's wrong with my foots, why won't this go away? And then it gets worse. So there's that double layered aspect to it. Maybe we can talk about that.

[00:23:24] Will Hughes: Yeah. So what you'r e alluding to is that, it's called a hanging healing, and that is that your focus on the symptom. Cause you don't really understand what the symptom is about. Normally it is a symptom associated with a repair process. That's the noticeable phase. It's repair. Not the actual stress phase. To put that in perspective, imagine having a workload, a phenomenal workload, and you've got a holiday coming up and you get out of work and it's the day you arrive at your holiday destination. You're sick. That's the pattern. [00:24:00] Yeah. Or it's a gym workout. That's the stress.

[00:24:03] The next day you're suffering. That's the recovery. Yeah. This is what people don't seem to be able to grasp that there's two phases to every disease. Sorry, I just lost my train again. There was a bigger question.

[00:24:18] Brendan D. Murphy: Yeah. I started on the devaluation thing and cause double layered aspect of like you get the symptom, but then you can make it worse kind of thing, like, you were talking about when the sweats.

[00:24:26] Will Hughes: Yes. Specifically to what you just said there, the devaluation is a great one for getting stuck in. And this is what we call arthritis, is actually a hanging healing of a devaluation. So when the devaluation occurs and that is, to, for me to boil that down for you, this is a sense of not enough.

[00:24:48] Not being enough. So it could be in, there are very specific areas for this as well. You could feel intellectually not enough, and that would typically affect the neck. [00:25:00] You could feel not enough as a partner to someone which would affect your shoulder, or you could feel not enough as their mother or not enough as their child, that would affect the other shoulder.

[00:25:10] So there's a lot of reality to be considered here with is this, that this particular conflict. But what happens is while we are feeling not enough, there's a degenerative process going on, and it can be as light as fat tissue. So as in, the intensity of the conflict determines the material that is being degenerated.

[00:25:35]I don't even really like that word degenerated, but, let's say a really light one would be someone criticizing themselves about their weight or their fat content. Now that will set up a necrosis of pocket necrosis in the fat tissue. Cause that's where the focus is going. So pocket necrosis, in fact, tissue, is what we call cellulite.

[00:25:59] It's the [00:26:00] pattern of the fat. I've seen women, a larger, they're carrying a little bit of fat tissue, but they don't have cellulite. And then I've seen other women that are not really carrying so much fat, but they've got cellulite. And this is why it's an active process going on up here. When it's a deep seated conflict or when it's an intense and more intense conflict, then that could go as deep as bone.

[00:26:28] And this is where we see a erosion of bone. And again, a good point here is, that's the active phase of the devaluation. So a fairly intensity devaluation. It's, if you like, it's making the bone porous. So osteo, bone porous, osteoporosis. The silent disease. Of course it's silent. Cause that's the stress phase.

[00:26:54] However, when it, when you get over the devaluation and the repair process [00:27:00] begins, along with that comes swelling. Swelling tends to put pressure on nerves and induse pain, and it's dull, horrible aching pain of arthritis, is the repair process for the bone. If that makes sense, now an individual who's recovered from the Initial conflict of feeling unworthy, now they get a secondary conflict because they don't understand the pain and they don't understand the symptoms. They're looking at the pain going I'm no good in this area. This is broken. This is not working. And this is painful. This something wrong with me. Again, not enough. So now they've got a secondary conflict. And if they keep focusing on that symptom, the likelihood of them being stuck in that symptom is quite high.

[00:27:50] Just regarding that issue with ongoing processes like ongoing repair, so in that term arthritis. There's also things that [00:28:00] can trigger the original conflict. So let's say we received a devaluing experience via our partner, and we took it on. So it's now it's a self devaluation, we've taken on our partner and said, you're not smart enough to deal with that or whatever. And that's prompted an issue, a degeneration of the tissue in the neck.

[00:28:20] I know being taming from a partner, it will be on one side of the body, a specific side of the body, the dominant side of your body. And we have a test we do to determine that. Now let's say that partner is gone. They've moved away. They've left. But you're still experiencing, or you go into the repair phase.

[00:28:41] So there's a pain in the neck and it might get okay at times. And then it'll come back on. So what we look at is, what's the reminder, what's the reminder of the intellectual self devaluation. And I've said this many times, it could be as simple [00:29:00] as just having your X's photo on the mantle piece by the front door.

[00:29:05] So even in your periphery, your peripheral vision, you see their face and you're reminded that you're stupid. And that is all it needs to keep these programs alive.

[00:29:21]Brendan D. Murphy: And it's interesting to continue that line of thought. When we have the original events happening, the subconscious mind perceives millions of bits of data per second, much more than the conscious mind.

[00:29:31] So it's always aware of everything that's going on. And so it's constantly an event happens or trauma happens and then it takes a snapshot of that moment in time.

[00:29:39] Will Hughes: And that's where, what you described that beautifully, for 40 million bits of information and there's a snapshot and it's like we become a high band with data recorder at that initial stress event.

[00:29:54]This is why people under hypnosis can recall license plates of cars that were involved in an accident. Things [00:30:00] like that. Because there's an awful load of data, but we just distill it down to, I think it's about seven to nine bits of information. Now, all those final bits of data can get stored unconsciously. It could be conscious at first and then become unconscious. And over a period of time, we can let that go as well, which could wind up and you completely resolving the problem. It's why we heal the details of that event have no relevance anymore. And so there's no track, there's no access to get back to the original event if you like.

[00:30:32] Yeah. You just need one of those details. So for instance, someone who, maybe they've been suffering panic attacks for a while, and then they're through it. But every time they hear the screech of breaks, they have a panic attack. Now, if the original event was a car accident, that involves screeching brakes, it makes perfect sense. But it could be, even I had a track with my home phone. It's all unplugged now, but, [00:31:00] when I was going through my, one of my initial problems with thrombocytopenia, I had no blood platelets, very few. In fact, the count went down to one at one point. And the actual phone ringing was a track.

[00:31:13] And the reason that was cause very few people use my home phone number except the doctors. And they will call me and prompt me to come in and get another test. So yeah, every time I heard the phone, it was this anxiety and this stress, which put me back into worrying about my blood. And if you look into German New Medicine, you'll see that thrombocytopenia is associated with biological conflict of a blood worry. So actually worrying about your blood induces it. Yeah. My blood count went down and down and down. And the way I dealt with it was to leave the country for three months where I couldn't be contacted.

[00:31:57] Brendan D. Murphy: Wow. Beautiful. Desperate times.

[00:31:59]Will Hughes: I went [00:32:00] from account of one when I left to account of 89, when I returned three months later.

[00:32:05] Brendan D. Murphy: Okay. So I like this, like the power of suggestion is where we're going with this and we've got this whole medical system that's in a way designed, I think mostly unconsciously designed to, it's basically, it's a peer-based edits. The whole thing is gay based.

[00:32:26] So

[00:32:26] Will Hughes: what you're alluding to hear is I think nocebo. Yeah. So we know placebo. Now nocebo is the antithesis. It's in Australian terminology pointing the bone. The indigenous cultures would point the bone, whoever they felt needed excising from the pack and they would go away and die.

[00:32:46] But strangely it didn't work on the white folk. It's a cultural thing. So my other term for nocebo is doctor's friend.

[00:32:56] Brendan D. Murphy: I think that's very apropo.

[00:33:00] [00:33:00] Will Hughes: Bit tongue in cheek. Sorry. I interjected there.

[00:33:02] Brendan D. Murphy: No, but that's what we're talking about. Like this whole thing. We've just, we're still in the midst of this fear born pandemic, this, putting it into people's heads that they should be afraid, constantly afraid.

[00:33:14]Will Hughes: Problem reaction solution. Yeah. So they present you with the problem. That's the fear. So that, here's the problem. So it's like they sell you the problem for free, and then they get your reaction and then they sell you for money, the solution. This is just everywhere. And this sort of takes me to a product, and I have a real distaste for product.

[00:33:39] So I'm right down to food. Everyone's selling superfoods. Every food is a super food. It's food. You just need food, whether it's this barrier, that barrier or whatever. And even friends of mine who engaged the CSIRO many years ago, with their product, which [00:34:00] was strawberries, and the CSIRO, whoever it was they were talking to said, just bring your product gain. We'll run a bunch of tests on it. We'll find something that's in high quantity and then yours will have the most of this. And you'll just, you'll be able to market that with a CSIRO badge on it.

[00:34:17] Too

[00:34:18] Brendan D. Murphy: easy.

[00:34:19]Will Hughes: Yeah. It's Just eat, eat broadly. Enjoy. But partake of food and partake of everything that comes with that and that's society as well. Traditionally, food and sharing is a common practice. And I've said this, in a, what people don't get enough off these days is go share that coffee with a friend and talk, really talk. Don't talk about politics or blah, blah, blah, or whatever, talk about what's going on in your life and what you've experienced and how you framed it and what that means seal or, and it could be something recent, but it could be something from history, but talk. [00:35:00] That's the cheapest form of therapy there is.

[00:35:03] Brendan D. Murphy: Yeah. Problem shared is a problem half drive.

[00:35:08] Let's talk about two different kinds of

[00:35:09] Will Hughes: doctors, Will.

[00:35:10] Okay. This is an understanding that was given to me years ago. I've got a few friends of mine who are PhD's. So they're a doctor of philosophy. Now that type of doctor, they often get involved in research and education. But a PhD is someone that has had a group of their peers, examine their work and say, you know how to think.

[00:35:36] And here's your PhD. Here's your doctorate. Medical doctor is not that a medical doctor is someone that studies seven years. And at the end of it, they're presented with a license. And it's an honorary doctorate, so they're addressed as doctor, but it's honorary. Now the problem with this is [00:36:00] that at any point, the society, which gave you the doctorate can withdraw it.

[00:36:08] And that happens the moment you step outside of their policies. So this is why medical doctors are endangered by this understanding and they don't like following it. And there's many cases. There were hundreds of doctors in Europe, in the nineties, that had followed and been educated by Dr. Harmer. Now they arrest him for some dubious things, but, he was imprisoned for, I think, 15 months. And the doctors that were utilizing his understanding were summoned and threatened and they would lose their license. So Dr. Hamer's license was revoked. And, yeah. Then these other medical doctors, they were threatened as well.

[00:36:53] If you continue to practice outside our guidelines, then you will have your licenses revoked [00:37:00] also. And you have to consider the cost. It's something like half a million US, I think, to become a doctor, I think, in the US. So a year from a very young age normally, these people are on a treadmill. So the moment you get out of university, you've got a lump of a half a million dollars to repay somehow.

[00:37:22] Now, how do you do that without your license? Because you can't practice. Yeah, this is a good understanding. There are two types of doctors. Don't get them mixed up. And even if the PhD, if their income is dependent upon what they are teaching, and that could be Orthodox work, if they challenge the orthodoxy again, they don't get their doctorate removed, but they certainly get relegated to the far reaches of campus.

[00:37:52] And then not even allowed to organize the campus picnic anymore. That's the kind of pressure [00:38:00] that these folk deal with. So don't step out of the policy, that it restricts things. So I'm not a doctor. But, yeah, I've got no real fear of losing anything.

[00:38:12] And it's a little saying of mine. It's if you're looking to buy a used car, do you ask the car salesman which one is right for you? If you don't think there's any sub diffusional or product confusion or anything in the market, and you've probably either never bought a car or sold a house.

[00:38:33] It's like the industry, the best people to ask about an industry, we'd let that. Can you hear that mantle?

[00:38:43] Brendan D. Murphy: You can keep going.

[00:38:45] Will Hughes: So if you want to know anything about an industry, ask someone who used to work in it. And don't, I wouldn't ask people who were employed by it, cause they're obviously their income and how they put food on the [00:39:00] table is jeopardized by speaking out against it or giving you a dose of reality regarding it.

[00:39:07] So, that kind of brings us to product and my feelings on product. I'm, personally, I'm very anti product. There are some products that are beneficial. Don't get me wrong. And I would give anything consideration, but with GNM, when you understand biology and how it is functioning, this is observational science.

[00:39:29]You can see the effects that things have and things are likely to have. Products that are stimulants are going to tend to push that sort of stress hormone level up. And what happens when those stress hormones get pushed up, your symptoms tend to abate. So even an aspirin, it's a stimulus type product. So it affects the sympathetic nervous system, activates the sympathetic nervous system. [00:40:00] Whereas the parasympathetic, which is all about repair, relaxation, hunger, sleeping, you know, that's a relaxant, that's a type of relaxing. So even in herbal, you got to look at, is this something that's going to stimulate my parasympathetic or something is going to stimulate my sympathetic nervous system.

[00:40:20] Now simulating the sympathetic nervous system, it can give you relief from severe symptoms. And that can be beneficial too. Just to have a break from a level of pain can be advantageous just to help with someone's state. So the state of their psyche. Most things that I see these days, especially in the nutritional world or in the health world in general, people have this incredible focus on nutrition.

[00:40:48] Nutrition is nutrition. Just eat. Now have everything in moderation, including moderation itself. Enjoy, it's you know, so [00:41:00] everything in moderation, including moderation itself is probably the best advice I've ever had from a general practitioner, a doctor.

[00:41:07] Brendan D. Murphy: I think it's interesting that we have this big session. I think part of the reason we have the big session on nutrition that we do is because we see all the disease all around. It's like, all this disease symptoms around us, but we, and we know instinctively know that we don't know why we still have it, even though we're like doing everything we can, but it's not stopping all the symptoms.

[00:41:26] So we've become even more hardcore and we're looking for the next half, then the next super food.

[00:41:30]Will Hughes: Can I give you a recent insight? I've struggled for quite some time with mouth ulcerations and including on the tongue, which is really quite sensitive and really frustrating.

[00:41:43] And I had to think back to 10 years ago, a decade or more ago is when it began, I was thinking back to about 15 or 20 years ago. And I was, in the fourth quarter of a field station, filling my car and thinking what a wonderful position I'm in. I don't have [00:42:00] to be concerned about how I'm going to pay for this field.

[00:42:03] I know that money is there. It's saved, it's put aside and I'll be able to feed myself. I used to do this with a real regularity. It was just, appreciate where I'm at, the position I'm in. And only a few weekends ago, I was in quite a bit of pain in my mouth and I was considering what's the difference between now and 15 years ago when I was in great shape and in great position.

[00:42:34] And I thought to myself, I'm spending all my day thinking about the symptom, the pain and what was the conflict that caused it. And I might never find that, I might never remember that conflict. And then I took that step back and a few people have prompted me to do this in different ways, but I took that step back and I just thought what's missing.

[00:42:56] And I just had this epiphany. [00:43:00] So the appreciation in my life. And I started at that very moment. I started appreciating everything that was around me, appreciating the sky, appreciating that I was able to drive again, that I could do these things. I was able to visit. I was able to afford food and all of that.

[00:43:21] And I started appreciating it. And I would say within a minute, they, the pain changed in my mouth and ease dramatically, and we're were about a week or so on from that point now. And I can speak without sounding like a fig cloth. So yeah. It's really, it can be quite simple, but changing your thinking, it's just changing your thinking and that's all was, my focus was so ingrained on the symptom, around the symptom that breaking that pattern was important. It was an important step forward.

[00:44:00] [00:43:59] Brendan D. Murphy: Absolutely. Will, what are your parting words for the audience? What do they need to hear?

[00:44:04] Will Hughes: Okay. To contact me, my website is williamhughesgnm.com. If you're interested in progressing, I do teach, I've got a five modules currently running. I'm up to module three at the moment. And, I'm developing module six, which is, how I practice. The resource I'd like to steer people towards is, learning gnm.com. So that's two G's. I'm learning gnm.com. And that is the most thorough resource and it's free online that you'll find anywhere. There is also paid material on it. There are free videos, about eight hours of free video, and there's about 19 hours of paid video tuition work as well. So I would highly recommend that website as well, take not of that one.

[00:44:56] Brendan D. Murphy: Beautiful. Awesome. Will thank you so much for taking the time to share [00:45:00] your knowledge and your experience on this subject. It is vast. We can talk for a couple more hours on it easily, but we might have to do a separate show, but again, mate, thank you for joining us here on Truthiverse.

[00:45:10] Thank

[00:45:11] Will Hughes: you for having me. It's been a real pleasure.

[00:45:14] Brendan D. Murphy: Beautiful

[00:45:15] Will Hughes: ladies and gents, that was Will Hughes

[00:45:16] Brendan D. Murphy: and Brendan D

[00:45:17] Will Hughes: Murphy on Truthiverse on healthy

[00:45:19] Brendan D. Murphy: life radio. We'll see you next episode.

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Brendan D. Murphy is the Freedom Hacker and Truth Addict. A spiritual-intellectual and non-conformist, he is the author of highly acclaimed "The Grand Illusion: A Synthesis of Science and Spirituality" - Books 1 & 2, and co-founder of Trooth.network - where free speech lives (a censorship-free Fedbook alternative). "Freedom begins with truth."